Originally posted by Durcaz:Some of you probably cringed at that title. I don't know the terms. LolIm going to be trying to get into flight sims soon and im wondering if there is anything i can do to start practicing before my joystick gets here.?Thanks.My suggestion would be to listen to if you want the real listening experience. You can pick among the major hub ATCs and hear live transmissions as they happen. I'm a licensed pilot and recommend to my sim enthusiast friends so that they can know both what to expect when they log onto live sim-ATC, as well as what to say. The basic framework for ATC comms is that you tell them: Who you are, Where you are, what you want/request.
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This is Milviz FSX Steam Edition version of their original P3D v4.5 Porter release. It is essentially the same but with no PBR, lower resolution textures, and without TrueGlass. It retains all the other features, including the custom engine and systems programming. Let’s get one thing straight right at the start; FSX Steam Edition (FSX:SE) is FSX Gold, to all intents and purposes.It is FSX plus the Acceleration add-on, which includes Service Pack 2, so if you’re currently successfully running FSX, surely you won’t get anything from buying this, right?
There will probably be other simmers who will add in their own input as well.What I don't know is to what capacity you are going to be flying as a simmer. Are you going to be using live (sim) ATC comms during your flights, or aare you only going to be dealing with FSX ATC? How realistic do you want your flights to be? FSX:SE simulates (as best as it can) real world flying situations, but it should.not. be construed as anywhere.near. realistic-it isn't.APUtech.
Originally posted by Durcaz:Some of you probably cringed at that title. I don't know the terms. LolIm going to be trying to get into flight sims soon and im wondering if there is anything i can do to start practicing before my joystick gets here.?Thanks.My suggestion would be to listen to if you want the real listening experience. You can pick among the major hub ATCs and hear live transmissions as they happen.
I'm a licensed pilot and recommend to my sim enthusiast friends so that they can know both what to expect when they log onto live sim-ATC, as well as what to say. The basic framework for ATC comms is that you tell them: Who you are, Where you are, what you want/request. There will probably be other simmers who will add in their own input as well.What I don't know is to what capacity you are going to be flying as a simmer. Are you going to be using live (sim) ATC comms during your flights, or aare you only going to be dealing with FSX ATC? How realistic do you want your flights to be?
FSX:SE simulates (as best as it can) real world flying situations, but it should.not. be construed as anywhere.near.
realistic-it isn't.APUtech To be honest i didnt even know there was levels of sim. I will have to look into it. Thanks for the detailed reply. It helps a lot to know what they're trying to broadcast before listening in to The poor signal received by liveATC uploaders.Best way, join VATSim, ready through their getting started info, then sit on the Tarmac in VATSim for a bitlistening in, tell your controller you're new, etc. If like me you get mic fright, use the text interface.Whenever you find something you're not sure of, find three youtubes on it. YouTube has a habit of repeating misinformation and burying correct information at times, so it's best to use a trusted primary source, and go to YouTube for visual learning/having it explained in a different way, but really you want to have half an idea if the guy knows what he's talking about first - too much of YouTube is people explaining it to themselves lol;). Originally posted by:It helps a lot to know what they're trying to broadcast before listening in to The poor signal received by liveATC uploaders.Best way, join VATSim, ready through their getting started info, then sit on the Tarmac in VATSim for a bitlistening in, tell your controller you're new, etc.
If like me you get mic fright, use the text interface.Whenever you find something you're not sure of, find three youtubes on it. YouTube has a habit of repeating misinformation and burying correct information at times, so it's best to use a trusted primary source, and go to YouTube for visual learning/having it explained in a different way, but really you want to have half an idea if the guy knows what he's talking about first - too much of YouTube is people explaining it to themselves lol;) Will the ATC's be understanding?
Im worried im gonna get ignored if i dont know exactly what to do since they are quite busy. Oh and Angle of attack's training videos.These teach flying in flight sims from the perspective of a real world pilot who's gone through flight school.Aviator 90 is the free course, it doesn't offer too much other than absolute basic of atc in it's videos, but Aviator pro does have a section on ATC. There's a week free trial of pro, so if ATC is all you need, well worth signing up for. Just remember to cancel if you don't want the rest of the course/longer access - it's one of those 'you will be charged at the end of the trial period' deals:).
Originally posted by:It helps a lot to know what they're trying to broadcast before listening in to The poor signal received by liveATC uploaders.Best way, join VATSim, ready through their getting started info, then sit on the Tarmac in VATSim for a bitlistening in, tell your controller you're new, etc. If like me you get mic fright, use the text interface.Whenever you find something you're not sure of, find three youtubes on it.
YouTube has a habit of repeating misinformation and burying correct information at times, so it's best to use a trusted primary source, and go to YouTube for visual learning/having it explained in a different way, but really you want to have half an idea if the guy knows what he's talking about first - too much of YouTube is people explaining it to themselves lol;) Will the ATC's be understanding? Im worried im gonna get ignored if i dont know exactly what to do since they are quite busy. LolThey're people, so controller bob might be a great guy and controller Barry a.head lol. Generally though they are very understanding of newbies, so long as you have read the getting started stuff and your attitude is that of a learner. Too many times people learn one or two things then start trying to boss atc about. You know it's not call of duty - being a bellend gets you nowhere, being polite and taking advice on board gets you everywhere:)At the end of the day you can pause and drop out.
It's definitely easier if you start off with text interface - alsways easier to talk to someone by email than phone eh? Originally posted by:Will the ATC's be understanding? Im worried im gonna get ignored if i dont know exactly what to do since they are quite busy. LolThey're people, so controller bob might be a great guy and controller Barry a.head lol. Generally though they are very understanding of newbies, so long as you have read the getting started stuff and your attitude is that of a learner. Too many times people learn one or two things then start trying to boss atc about. You know it's not call of duty - being a bellend gets you nowhere, being polite and taking advice on board gets you everywhere:)At the end of the day you can pause and drop out.
It's definitely easier if you start off with text interface - alsways easier to talk to someone by email than phone eh? Oh so i can communicate with a real person through text? That'd be a good way to get started. My (limited) experience with the FSX ATC is that it is not very true to life. Seems you are interested in some form of live ATC like VATSIM or groups like ours have to offer. If so, this might helpful - well, I tried to give you a link to this document but it keeps getting removed.
I will try to PM you with the link.You'll see that the suggestions already given are included in the document. I agree completely but it might help to read through the document so you know what people are going to say - yep, it's all pretty predictable but sometimes communication on can sound like a rapid-fire string of nonsense if you don't know what to expect. Once you do you'll find this it is not unusual that you'll be saying things at practically the same time.Keep in mind that there are not many things that you have to do when communicating with ATC. The rules are pretty simple:1. Listen - make sure no one else is communicating2.
Know what you are going to say before you say it -Who you are calling Who you are - your plane type with N-number (drop the 'N' if you give your plane type but otherwise use the full registration after the ‘N’ as your call sign), your airline call sign and flight number or other applicable identifier. Where you are (several variations on this - best to see the examples that follow and those that you hear) Type of message to follow (or if it is short, make your request or statement - again, some examples below will help) With (In some cases - certain information. This part is not always used). Usually this is ‘with current information identifier letter – ‘with Juliet’, ‘with Delta’. Airport information is identified with a single letter starting with ‘A’ and progressing alphabetically with each revision. The word 'Over' - but you will notice that this does not happen much, including in RW communications. See the comment on page 14 about the phrase 'With you'.3.